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[[WormBase-Caltech_Weekly_Calls_June_2019|June]]
  
== June 6, 2019 ==
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[[WormBase-Caltech_Weekly_Calls_July_2019|July]]
  
=== New SObA graphs ===
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[[WormBase-Caltech_Weekly_Calls_August_2019|August]]
* May put graphs within existing widgets, but don't need to rush to get that ready for IWM
 
  
=== Phenotype association file format ===
 
* May be best to leave the format as is
 
* There are problems; paper IDs keep switching columns
 
* Would need to revisit the reasoning for why we do it that way
 
* When will the Alliance produce a similar/replacement file? Not sure
 
  
=== Phenotype requests ===
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== September 12, 2019 ==
* Sent out 1140 emails on May 30
 
* Since have received 374 annotations from 54 papers (42 requested, 12 additional)
 
* 21 papers flagged as not having phenotypes
 
* Of 1140 papers emailed about, 35 emails bounced, and have received some flagging or curation on 63 (63/1105 = ~6% response rate), in first week
 
  
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=== Update on SVM pipeline ===
 +
* New SVM pipeline: more analysis and more parameter tuning
 +
* avoiding precision (and F-value) as a measure (dependent on ratio of positives and negatives in test set)
 +
* For example shown, "dumb" machine starts out with precision above 0.6
 +
* G-value (Michael's invention); does not depend on distribution of sets
 +
* Applied to various data types
 +
* Analysis: 10-fold cross validation
 +
** Randomly select 10% pos and neg (without replacement) and repeat until all papers sampled
 +
* F-value changes over different p/n values; G-value does not (essentially flat)
 +
* Area Under the Curve (AUC): probability that a random positive scores higher than random negative
 +
* AUC values for many WB data types upper 80%'s into 90%'s
 +
* Ranjana: How many papers for a good training set? Michael: we don't know yet
 +
* Can't reproduce old training sets (for old SVM); provide Michael better training sets if you want improved SVM
 +
* If SVM still not good enough, Michael will work on deep neural networks (Tensor Flow)
 +
* Michael can provide training sets he has used recently
  
== June 13, 2019 ==
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=== Clarifying definitions of "defective" and "deficient" for phenotypes ===
 +
* WB phenotype ontology has many "variant/abnormal" terms and distinct subclass terms for "defective/deficient"
 +
* Have tried to create a logical definition pattern for these terms, but the vagueness of the meaning of "defective" and how it is distinct from "abnormal" has stalled the process
 +
* What do we mean exactly by "defective" and how, specifically, is this distinct from "abnormal"?
 +
* Definitions include meanings or words:
 +
** "Variations in the ability"
 +
** "aberrant"
 +
** "defect"
 +
** "defective"
 +
** "defects"
 +
** "deficiency"
 +
** "deficient"
 +
** "disrupted"
 +
** "impaired"
 +
** "incompetent"
 +
** "ineffective"
 +
** "perturbation that disrupts"
 +
** Failure to execute the characteristic response = abnormal?
 +
** abnormal
 +
** abnormality leading to specific outcomes
 +
** fail to exhibit the same taxis behavior = abnormal?
 +
** failure
 +
** failure OR delayed
 +
** failure, slower OR late
 +
** failure/abnormal
 +
** reduced
 +
** slower
  
=== IWM ===
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=== Citace upload ===
* Coordinating transportation of swag boxes to Pauley Pavilion
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** Tuesday, Sep 24th
* Workshop on Saturday June 22, from 1pm to 2:30pm
 
* Saturday morning micropublication breakfast 7:30 - 8:30am
 
* Workshop
 
** Presenters: it may be best to present as use cases rather than a research project
 
** Chris will cover SimpleMine for Wen
 
** Chris: won't do live demo; only screenshots, maybe some video
 
* Paul's lab will do marathon bibs to show lab affiliation and graphical abstract
 
* Paul's talk
 
** Cover Alliance
 
** New features
 
*** SObA (for new data)
 
*** Complete for protein-protein interactions
 
*** RNASeq tools
 
*** Updated automated gene concise descriptions?
 
** Phenotype community curation
 
*** Chris will send Paul numbers on: top community curators, overall stats (number of annotations, papers, curators)
 
** Author First Pass
 
** Micropublication
 
  
=== SGD SAB ===
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=== Strain to ID mapping ===
* Paul attended
+
* Waiting on Hinxton to send strain ID mapping file?
* Alliance publicity was discussed
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* Hopefully we can all get that well before the upload deadline
* SAB likes the Alliance orthology features
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* Will do global replacement at time of citace upload (at least for now)
* Working on topics: displaying papers and data
 
* Pathways: discussion about best approach
 
* Metabolic engineering
 
* Meta data about RNASeq data
 
** SPELL tool, basically only tool of its kind available; need new tools
 
* Species-specific proteins: how best to find them? HMMs (Jackhammer)?
 
  
=== Concise descriptions ===
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=== New name server ===
* Progress being made within the Alliance to update the automated concise gene descriptions
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* When will this officially go live?
* We will still accept manually written descriptions and display them in parallel with automated descriptions
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* Will we now be able to request strain IDs through the server? Yes
  
=== Micropublications ===
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=== SObA Graphs ===
* If people are requesting manually written gene descriptions, they could submit a microreview
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* New graphs now live on site (Expression, Gene Ontology, Human Diseases, Phenotypes)
* Concern was expressed about how to handle a really high throughput of submissions:
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* A lot of whitespace padding above and below graph; maybe trim? trimming vertically would ultimately limit the view pane when user wants to zoom in, so we should leave as is for now
** Daniela: Working towards automating as much of the processing pipeline as possible
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* Diff tool: Raymond and Juancarlos created a prototype diff tool (for comparing two genes, for example)
** Raymond: The throughput will be handled appropriately depending on demand; priority scheme will help
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** Paul: compared two genes that should be very similar, but there are a lot of differences; may reflect annotation coverage rather than biology
** Not getting lots of submissions yet, probably won't be inundated in the near future
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** Karen: tools are still being developed; the platform is not being advertised as much as it could be; will ramp up outreach and communication once tools are in place to handle more submissions
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* Karen: Micropublications team will reach out to curators to help build submission forms for respective data types
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== September 19, 2019 ==
 +
 
 +
=== Strains ===
 +
* Need to wait for new strain IDs from Hinxton before running dumping scripts
 +
* Don't edit multi-ontology strain fields in OA for now!
 +
* Juancarlos will map free text and ontology-name strain entries to strain IDs once we have the complete mapping file
 +
* "Requested strain" field in Disease OA; not dumped, so don't need to worry about right now
 +
 
 +
=== Alliance literature curation ===
 +
* Working group will be formed soon
 +
* Will work out general common pipelines for literature curation
 +
 
 +
=== SObA Graph relations ===
 +
* Currently only integrating over "is a", "part of" and "regulates"
 +
* Maybe we could provide users an option to specify which relations to include, or maybe just exclude "regulates"
 +
 
 +
=== Author First Pass ===
 +
* Putting together paper for AFP
 +
* Reviewing all user input for paper
 +
* Asking individual curators to check input

Latest revision as of 16:39, 19 September 2019

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September 12, 2019

Update on SVM pipeline

  • New SVM pipeline: more analysis and more parameter tuning
  • avoiding precision (and F-value) as a measure (dependent on ratio of positives and negatives in test set)
  • For example shown, "dumb" machine starts out with precision above 0.6
  • G-value (Michael's invention); does not depend on distribution of sets
  • Applied to various data types
  • Analysis: 10-fold cross validation
    • Randomly select 10% pos and neg (without replacement) and repeat until all papers sampled
  • F-value changes over different p/n values; G-value does not (essentially flat)
  • Area Under the Curve (AUC): probability that a random positive scores higher than random negative
  • AUC values for many WB data types upper 80%'s into 90%'s
  • Ranjana: How many papers for a good training set? Michael: we don't know yet
  • Can't reproduce old training sets (for old SVM); provide Michael better training sets if you want improved SVM
  • If SVM still not good enough, Michael will work on deep neural networks (Tensor Flow)
  • Michael can provide training sets he has used recently

Clarifying definitions of "defective" and "deficient" for phenotypes

  • WB phenotype ontology has many "variant/abnormal" terms and distinct subclass terms for "defective/deficient"
  • Have tried to create a logical definition pattern for these terms, but the vagueness of the meaning of "defective" and how it is distinct from "abnormal" has stalled the process
  • What do we mean exactly by "defective" and how, specifically, is this distinct from "abnormal"?
  • Definitions include meanings or words:
    • "Variations in the ability"
    • "aberrant"
    • "defect"
    • "defective"
    • "defects"
    • "deficiency"
    • "deficient"
    • "disrupted"
    • "impaired"
    • "incompetent"
    • "ineffective"
    • "perturbation that disrupts"
    • Failure to execute the characteristic response = abnormal?
    • abnormal
    • abnormality leading to specific outcomes
    • fail to exhibit the same taxis behavior = abnormal?
    • failure
    • failure OR delayed
    • failure, slower OR late
    • failure/abnormal
    • reduced
    • slower

Citace upload

    • Tuesday, Sep 24th

Strain to ID mapping

  • Waiting on Hinxton to send strain ID mapping file?
  • Hopefully we can all get that well before the upload deadline
  • Will do global replacement at time of citace upload (at least for now)

New name server

  • When will this officially go live?
  • Will we now be able to request strain IDs through the server? Yes

SObA Graphs

  • New graphs now live on site (Expression, Gene Ontology, Human Diseases, Phenotypes)
  • A lot of whitespace padding above and below graph; maybe trim? trimming vertically would ultimately limit the view pane when user wants to zoom in, so we should leave as is for now
  • Diff tool: Raymond and Juancarlos created a prototype diff tool (for comparing two genes, for example)
    • Paul: compared two genes that should be very similar, but there are a lot of differences; may reflect annotation coverage rather than biology


September 19, 2019

Strains

  • Need to wait for new strain IDs from Hinxton before running dumping scripts
  • Don't edit multi-ontology strain fields in OA for now!
  • Juancarlos will map free text and ontology-name strain entries to strain IDs once we have the complete mapping file
  • "Requested strain" field in Disease OA; not dumped, so don't need to worry about right now

Alliance literature curation

  • Working group will be formed soon
  • Will work out general common pipelines for literature curation

SObA Graph relations

  • Currently only integrating over "is a", "part of" and "regulates"
  • Maybe we could provide users an option to specify which relations to include, or maybe just exclude "regulates"

Author First Pass

  • Putting together paper for AFP
  • Reviewing all user input for paper
  • Asking individual curators to check input